Confidential E-mails From Ramesvara Leaked (Dec. 2014)

Just recently three confidential e-mails were leaked and posted on facebook. They reveal what Ramesvara Prabhu thinks about the changes made the Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gita, the editing policies of the BBTI and they shed light on what happened when the GBC and BBT trustees “reviewed” the 83 Gita. ramesvara1 Below are some quotes that will rock the boat, but please visit the website at the end of this article to see all three e-mails in their entirety and thus get the full picture. Quotes From confidential email no. 1:

“The problem with the “Responsible Publishing” paper is that it is simply not the entire body of instruction, and it‘s critics point out that it is one-sided and obviously leaves out many of Prabhupada’s cautionary instructions against unnecessary change,”

[…]

“That analysis with Dravida Prabhu left me with my deepest concern: if the changes didn’t have substantial merit but were made anyway, then regardless of the justification of “making it better” the door, the “change disease” as Srila Prabhupada called it, had been dangerously opened for anything to happen in the future after we are all long gone.”

[…]

“The Lilamrita interviews I found tell of Srila Prabhupada’s direct instructions regarding the size of the books, the artwork to be kept in the books, etc. – things that have already been changed so many times in the past 20 years, without understanding of Prabhupada’s orders, that it makes the “official” opening of this “change” door more ominous for the future, in ways we can’t even imagine.”

[…]

“…an absolute position has to be reached so that before we die, we know that within the BBT and ISKCON there could never again be one single change, for any reason, ever made to Srila Prabhupada’s books.”

From confidential e-mail no. 2:

“The “Responsible Publishing” (RP) paper has either a significant misleading or a significant historical inaccuracy. There are sites which claim to list more than 5,000 changes. Certainly there were thousands of changes. The RP paper states that every change to the translations was reviewed and approved by the Trustees, leading ISKCON devotees, the CBC, etc. Later the RP cites or implies in its endorsements that all the changes were approved. Of course, NO ONE other than the editors ever saw back in 1981 or 1982 ALL the changes.”

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“I have always admitted that my great failure as a trustee was not carefully reading every proposed change, and instead, relying on the endorsement of Hridayananda and Satsvarupa- along with Jayadvaita.”

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“I know that in talking years ago with others on that committee, that they also admitted performing only a cursory review of the proposed changes,…”

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“No one back then did their job or acted with full responsibility for what they were endorsing. l assure you that NO ONE on that Committee ever even asked to see all the changes, and we would have been astounded to have learned in 1981 or 1982 that there were thousands, maybe more than 5,000 changes. I lazily assumed that the work done on manuscripts as close to the original as possible was the only thing that mattered. I failed to consider all the other Prabhupada instructions, the ramifications for making changes if they didn’t ultimately change the meaning; the effect of changes that in some cases loses the flavor of the Gita we had been studying for 10 years, and most importantly, that breaks the etiquette of changing a Sampradaya Acaraya’s books after His disappearance and opens the “change door” for possible future other changes over the decades and centuries to come. The RP paper implies that the changes were carefully reviewed and approved throughout the leadership of the BBT, GBC and ISKCON. I am certain that by interviewing all the leaders of that time, we would find most guilty of the same mistake that i made. It is true to state that the leaders of ISKCON at the time endorsed the changes. However, it is overtly misleading to state or suggest that the leaders actually performed a careful review. And getting back to the fact that there are thousands of changes, no leader, including the BBT Trustees, was ever shown every single change. No one! That is the sad historical fact…”

From confidential e-mail no. 3:

“I find it embarrassing that on the site BBTEdit.com, in the section about editing posthumously, the only quote to support touching the works of a departed Acarya is that Srila Jiva Goswami was working posthumously on Bhakti Rasamrita Sindhu. Seriously – how can any living entity compare themselves to Sri Jiva Goswami, or think because he touched the work of Sri Rupa Gosvami, therefore an editor in the lower stages of bhakti, not yet fully situated in the perfected stages of bhava (what to Speak of prema) can touch and change the words of a departed Sampradaya Acarya. Not a good example in my lowly View – it begs the question of What our editors think of themselves and their level of Krsna Consciousness. Oh well…”

Please find all the three e-mails in their entirety here: http://jayasrikrishna.weebly.com (PDF and Word). You can also see and download the e-mails here as PDF and Word.

3 thoughts on “Confidential E-mails From Ramesvara Leaked (Dec. 2014)

  1. A few things about Rameswara das: I lived in ‘his’ zone from pre-1977 until 1991. He says, “l assure you that NO ONE on that Committee ever even asked to see all the changes,” “I lazily assumed that the work done on manuscripts, as close to the original as possible, was the only thing that mattered.” Does he really expect the current and future devotees to believe that ISKCON leaders acted without any attempted input from their well-wishing and un-motivated God brothers?! Whenever he was questioned by his God brothers (and believe me, God brothers questioned him on this book issue as well as the guru issue, the collection issue and so many others) he most often replied with the famous escape clause, “I didn’t know.” At the same time boasting he knows everything, his God brothers know nothing, and cursing most devotees. I find it very hard to trust anything he says and am extremely doubtful that using him as an authority is really necessary or even beneficial in the long run. You know the controlled opposition is expert at capturing the attention of the dissatisfied groups by pretending to oppose what those groups oppose, but then, at some point they begin to insert their real agenda, which is the plan to get just and exactly what they want, and no one notices it because they’ve gained your trust and swung you over to their way of thinking ever so slowly and secretly. Most of the opposition groups are not skilled at spotting nor exposing and countering it. Srila Prabhupada’s numerous direct instructions as recorded in his Un-tampered with writings should carry sufficient merit for genuine devotees to use to counter the book-polluting agenda.

    Institutionalized falsity runs in his blood.

    THE KOL NIDRE is a Jewish prayer named from its
    opening words “All vows” (kol nidre), it is based on the
    declaration of the Talmud:-
    “He who wishes that his vows and oaths shall have no
    value, stand up at the beginning of the year and say:
    ‘All vows which I shall make during the year shall be of no value.'”

    “All vows, obligations, oaths or anathemas, pledges of
    all names, which we have vowed, sworn, devoted, or
    bound ourselves to, from this day of atonement, until
    the next day of atonement (whose arrival we hope for in
    happiness) we repent, aforehand, of them all, they shall
    all be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, void and
    made of no effect; they shall not be binding, nor have
    any power; the vows shall not be reckoned as vows, the
    obligations shall not be obligatory, nor the oaths
    considered as oaths.”

    “If this strange statement were something dug out of the
    misty past, it would scarcely merit attention. But as being
    a part of a revised Jewish prayer book printed in the
    United States in 1919, and as being one of the high points
    of the Jewish religious celebration of New Year, it cannot
    be lightly dismissed after attention has once been called to it.”

    “If the prayer were a request for forgiveness for the
    broken vows of the past, normal human beings could quite
    understand it. Vows, promises, obligations and pledges
    are broken, sometimes by weakness of will to perform
    them, sometimes by reason of forgetfulness, sometimes by
    sheer inability to do the thing we thought we could do.
    Human experience is neither Jew nor Gentile in that respect.
    But the Kol Nidre prayer is a holy advance notice,
    given in the secrecy of the synagogue, that no promise
    whatsoever shall be binding, and more than not being
    binding is then and there violated before it is ever made.
    The scope of the prayer is “for this day of atonement,
    until the next day of atonement.”The prayer breaks down
    the common ground of confidence between men: “the
    vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall
    not be obligatory, nor the oaths considered oaths.””
    http://www.nonwo.com/kolnidre/

    lowly servant in the service of His Divine Grace Srila AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.

  2. So, they are not confidential anymore, and after all quite obvious to a sane man anyway, not a big revelation to me. GBC inc. of West Bengal or an IsKcon guru are all the front line products of Mr. Kali the deity of this age of quarell and hypocrisy. Those faultfinders from BBT”I” (am) are cruel poisoners guru-druha and guru-tyagis, the whole IsKcon is after the heinous crime of autumn 1977 (Prabhupada: “This is my only request, that at the last stage don’t torture me and put me to death. So I am not eating anything, and if we chant, by batches chant, I’ll hear.” [Room Conversation, Nov 3, 1977, Vrindavana), an unthinkable assassination of the yuga acarya nothing more than an express to the deepest hell. Don’t be allured by their high talk or a Vaishnava like camouflage , tilaka and mala, that’s all cheating, and after all a thing most of us deserve.

  3. Hari-bol Prabhu As a devotee Initiated by Srila Prabhupada 1973 I have my first Bhagavad-Gita from 1972 were they told not to add or take away any part of what was there in the first books by Srila Prabhupada.. this is what I remember,, this would be leaked and posted sooner or later anyway

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